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Mr. Peter Ickes 
Interview with

 PETER ICKES

PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER - VESTED DEVELOPMENT
FEBRUARY 21, 2003
Vested Development, Inc. (VDI) is a major international provider of leading edge software development services, and you have been operating since the company's founding in 1997. What was your initial corporate strategy and how have you positioned yourself in the American market?

VDI's initial corporate strategy recognized that the capabilities and capacity of the North American software industry were being challenged by the combination of Y2K and the accelerating move of mission critical business functions to the Internet. VDI believed at the time - - and continues to believe today - - that outsourcing of software development and engineering creates real economic and strategic value by 'compressing' the three principal barriers to innovation - - time, risk and price.
From the beginning VDI has been developing innovative new products and product extensions for the North American commercial software market. Importantly, in almost all cases technology migration and reengineering have been critical to VDI's successful delivery of these new features and functions. VDI recognizes that compressing the costs of innovation requires the engineering to minimize the impact of new functions on legacy business processes and systems.

A popular comparison to make is between Russian and Indian IT, outsourcing, their development, advantages and potential. However, one could also argue against such a comparison. What is your stance on this issue? How does VDI fit into this picture?


This question goes to the heart of the question: What is the business problem that is being outsourced - - software 'development', or software 'engineering'? We believe the difference is definitive to the business model of VDI, and perhaps to the Russian software industry in general.
Software Development: Information technology, and especially the software industry are clearly on the leading edge of international collaborative development. The language of software has become an international language. As a result, software development - - as defined by the writing and testing of code - - can be sourced almost throughout the world. Further, quality, already quite high in India, is improving across the supplier markets.
However, to be successful, the traditional off-shore development model requires customers know exactly what they need, want and are asking for. In effect, software development is the execution of plan specified by the customer. Projects need detailed design and functional specifications, work plans that minimize uncertainty, and deliverables bounded by visible customer expectations. Such clarity, in turn, requires solid alignment with, and within the target customer. If project specifications (and expectations) are clear, stable and articulate customers can save some time and cost. When true, the business problem being outsourced is software development.
Software Engineering: VDI provides software engineering - - as defined by the design, development and delivery of engineered software solutions. Russian software engineers are by definition problem solvers. By training, tradition and practical experience, they understand how to solve problems, often given acute limitations of time, money and other resources. Further, they understand that new technologies and new applications must be designed and built to minimize their impact on existing, or legacy business processes and systems. Leveraging the unique advantages of the Russian engineering culture, VDI offers a problem solving professional services model explicitly focused on reducing the time, risks and costs of deploying innovative, enabling software.

In simple terms, if the 'architectural blue print' is clear, complete and fixed, consider sourcing software development services in India and elsewhere. On the other hand, if there remain unresolved issues and decisions - - both technical and business - - seriously consider sourcing software engineering talent in Russia.

VDI is a perfect example of mutually beneficial international cooperation between Russia and America. Could you elaborate on this success formula?


VDI believes that reducing the time, risk and cost of innovation is the principal challenge facing both the users and developers of information technology. Currently, these costs - - especially time - - prevent, or slow the adoption of powerful new technologies. The evident truth is that in all businesses the pace of change and innovation continues to accelerate. It is equally clear, however, that the total costs - - again defined by time, risk and price - - of successfully employing new software remain far too high. Given that information technology has become an international language and currency, the solution will be better collaboration and cooperation between advantaged sources of talent and skills, and concentrations of market demand.

By design VDI is a combined U.S.-Russian company serving the North American, European and Russian commercial software and large end-user markets. The benefits of this collaboration flow in both directions. On one hand, VDI's North American and European customers gain access to the technical and economic benefits of Russian advantaged software engineering and problem solving expertise. On the other, VDI's Russian customers gain access to software engineers deeply experienced in the 'best practices' of North America and Europe. In effect, the knowledge and experience of each market is transferred to the other.

VDI has been profitable since its second month of operation. How have you been able and how do you continue to maximize your sales efforts?


VDI's business is the delivery of engineered software solutions. VDI's success has always been tied to the success of its customers. This requires that VDI clearly understand the business problem the customer needs solved. From the beginning VDI sold software development, but provided software engineering. Successful software outsourcing requires VDI align and deliver three things: 1) What the customer asks for; 2) What the customer really wants, and; 3) What the customer actually needs to accomplish its objectives.

The relationship between VDI and its customers evolves from a being a vendor to a strategic asset. VDI first sells project outsourcing. Once the economic and strategic benefits of software engineering outsourcing is established, VDI transitions the customer relationship to provide strategic outsourcing of part, or all of specified engineering functions. Finally, VDI sells and provides a 'virtual' software engineering and development department or facility.
The VDI sales strategy is to build toward a partnership model where the customer and VDI build on, and leverage the shared experience and skills of working together.


Quality, efficiency and cost-effectiveness is what your customers demand from you. Which are VDI's competitive advantages derived from VDI's on-site management expertise in the United States and offshore development talent in Russia?

Answer: In the software industry value is created in the customers' business - - not the suppliers' business. VDI provides services to commercial software developers, their customers, and endusers. Each of these environments requires real-time translation and communication of customer specific information, knowledge and perspectives. This communication flow is bi-directional - - i.e. both to and from the customer - - and involves both technical and business information.

The flow of information to VDI is designed to ensure that the engineering team develops an effective understanding of the intersection between customers' requests, wants and needs. The flow to the customer is designed to ensure customer confidence that their needs are being met, and to enable the customer to use VDI's services effectively and efficiently.

From VDI's perspective, the situational awareness that results from having an on-site, consultative engagement management team is the key to our value proposition of compressing risk, time and costs. Our view is therefore, you have to be where the value is created if you are going to create value.

The management of a company are the visionaries leading the way forward. With this in mind, could you introduce yourself to our readers, and what is your corporate strategy and vision for VDI's operations in America?


Answer: I joined VDI as the direct result of my experience both as a provider and buyer of information technologies, outsourcing, and technical and strategy professional services. Prior to joining VDI I was a principal in the Telic Group, a Boston based strategy and business development consulting practice. Before that I was a senior executive in a U.S. based Indian software development firm, during which time I acquired a deep understanding of the Indian software industry.

I was a founder of Gen3 Partners, Inc., an innovative business development and strategy practice that was formed out of Treacy & Company, a Boston based strategy practice. Prior to Treacy & Company I was a Senior Manager at Braxton Associates, the strategy practice of Deloitte & Touch Consulting, Director of Technology of Cowles Media in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I was also an early member of Integrated Systems Services Company (ISSC), the IT services delivery and outsourcing firm that became IBM's Global Services.

The perspectives gained by these experiences combine to give me a strong point of view about the nature, challenges and economics of strategic outsourcing. More importantly these experiences have given me a deep understanding of the strategic implications of the information economy.

By now it is clear that the structure and dynamics of business relationships are changing, and the change is dramatic. Power is shifting to customers, and away from the manufacturers and sellers of virtually all goods and services. The information revolution both causes and permits this fundamental shift in power. The results and implications for buyers and sellers are profound. Specifically, horizontal collaboration is replacing vertical integration as the prevailing business model, and speed and innovation is replacing scale and efficiency as the key success factors in almost every business.

Sellers must be able to respond to this structural change in two ways. First, they must know and communicate with their customers directly, personally and often. More importantly, this communication must go both ways - - that is as a customer learns more about a seller, the seller must learn more about the customer. Second, all sellers must innovate their products and deliver their products to market much faster. This means that manufacturers need to communicate and collaborate with their suppliers and distribution partners, also directly personally and often.

In both cases information technologies - - hardware, software and communications - - are both the fuel and the lubricant of these new dynamics. Software is the technology bottleneck to innovation.

Today, as has always been true, far too many IT projects and investments fail. Even as orders of magnitude improvements to hardware and communications technologies continue, technology projects either fail outright, or fail to deliver functional, strategic or financial promises. These failures are not technical. They are failures of risk management.

Simply stated, VDI reduces the risks of timely, effective use of information technology to drive better relationships with customers, suppliers and distributors of product and services. VDI provides engineered software solutions that maximize the utility of contemporary information technology, minimize its impact on legacy infrastructures and business processes, and compress time and costs of completion and implementation.

Red Herring readers are well-educated, essentially forward-thinking, and interested in business and IT. What would be your advice to the readers who are considering offshore software outsourcing to Russia?


Answer: To successfully outsource one needs to fully understand what is being outsourced, and why. Of the two questions, why is often more important than what to outsource. Seldom do cost savings alone justify the decision, especially for businesses that face important changes to their business. Reducing the costs, but not changing current processes does not address the challenges of accelerating change. Simply being more efficient in an ineffective business relationship or process creates no value. Outsourcing is best justified when there is either a need, or an opportunity to change both process and systems.

Designing and successfully deploying innovative software is an engineering problem. Therefore, the degree and impact of the change on the organization should drive the decision as to where, and with whom a customer should outsource. In VDI's view - - and experience - - Russia is the advantaged source of software engineering because of its unique combination of culture and tradition, education, and experience. Those attributes allow intelligent customers to realize the economics benefits of India, and the technological advantages of engineered solutions of North America and Europe.

What would be your final message to the
readers of the Moscow report to be published in Red Herring and World Investment News' website, who will also be reading this interview, to be published in its entirety on www.winne.com?


The decision to outsource is a strategic, not tactical decision. In making the decision to outsource one enters a partnership relationship where the success is shared, but where the risks are transferred over time to the outsourcing provider. From the beginning of that relationship successful transfer of that risk depends on clarity of purpose from the client, matched with commitment of the appropriate and necessary skills, experience and culture from the outsourcing provider.
Therefore, the key message to potential outsourcers is to: 1) Understand the strategic, technical and financial objectives of the outsourcing; 2) Carefully examine the nature of the work (i.e. software development versus software engineering), and the alternatives to outsourcing - - co-sourcing, off-shore staff augmentation, in-sourcing, as examples, and; 3) Choose the outsourcer whose business and services delivery model most closely matches the full range of needs.

The interesting paradox is that history clearly shows that the most successful outsourcing partnerships are those where the outsourcing client could just as easily decided to ins-source their project, rather than outsource it. The decision to outsource a project, or engineering function when it could have remained in-house is, by definition, a strategic decision, and will, therefore, likely result in a solution that is a strategic asset.
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