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Mr. Hervé Barré


Interview with:

Mr. Hervé Barré 

General Manager of
NOVOTEL Kigali Umubano
(ACCOR hotels)

Contact details:
Tel: +250-83361/62
Fax: +250-82957
E-mail: umubano@rwanda1.com
27/05/02
 
In order to get a brief overview of the Novotel Kigali, what is the profile of the guests you attract to your hotel today?

90% of the business is from corporate or government segment, 1% are tourists and 9% are crewmembers from African airlines.

What is the current occupancy of the hotel?

We have 100 rooms and the hotel is running between 45% to 60% occupancy. Our yearly occupancy is around 50%.

In many similar hotels, we notice that conference rooms represent the main part of the turnover of the hotel. To what extent do conferences contribute to your turnover?

It is true that in Kigali, conferences and seminars generate a major part of our business. However, it is difficult to say what share it exactly represent, as the software presently operating in the hotel is not accurate. Accor took over this hotel on management in 2001 and we intend to deploy our company software in the coming weeks. This will enable us to get good statistics.
Is conferences part of your development strategy for the hotel or are you mainly focused on increasing the occupancy rate?

Yes, of course because conferences in Kigali also generate room occupancy. But you should know that, in the hotel industry, the main part of the profit comes from the rooms and, far behind, conferences and Food & Beverage operations. Therefore, the best target are international conferences with delegates staying in the hotel.
Today there are only two hotels, which are capable of holding 150-200 people in a conference. So I think the business is more or less equally shared with our competitor.

What is your marketing policy in order to attract new customers to the hotel?

As I have only been here for few weeks, it is difficult to say what will be the marketing policy in the coming months. I first have to analyse the origin of the business in Kigali before develop a strategy.
What I have noticed so far is that a big share of the business seemed to be generated by the government, embassies and NGO's. Therefore, the contacts are here, in Kigali. That could be the first target.
Then, sales trips in the region will probably be needed to increase our share on East African countries. I am convinced that there is some potential for corporate business.

Talking about tourism, as there is a very big will from the government to develop this sector, I think it will be interesting in the coming years to go to Berlin, London, Paris and Milan and try to promote this segment. But right now it is a very small market.

So I suppose your strategy relies more on what the government is going to do for the tourism sector.

Yes, definitely, taking into consideration that at the end of the day, businessmen and seminars will still be the biggest segment of our business.

Novotel owns lodges in some national parks of neighbouring countries. Has Novotel the intention to create such lodges outside Kigali?

Novotel is one brand within the Accor group and Accor policy is more to bring investors than investing itself. In Tanzania, we were managing government lodges. Here, we know that the government would like to find investors to renovate the properties in the country side. If we can find these investors, we would be glad to convince them to come in Rwanda and develop the hotel industry with Accor.

Two new hotels are being built in Kigali. How do you expect this new competition to impact on your activity and what will be your strategy to counterbalance this impact?

Today, the existing business in the two main hotels of Kigali is just enough to reach 60% occupancy. Building two new hotels will definitively have a strong impact on us. However, until they are completed, we will see if all the measures taken by the government will boost the hotel industry as, with the two openings, the number of rooms in the upper segment will double. I think that there is a need of hotels in the 2* market but the 3 and 4* segment is fully covered by the two exiting hotels.

I recently told my manager and the owning company that we have three years to complete the renovation of the hotel. If we can manage to get the air conditioning in all the rooms, renovate the public areas and upgrade our leisure facilities, then we would be in a very good position to face new hotels.
Furthermore, we have to develop strong customers relations and make our clients faithful to the brand and this hotel. If we take good care of these clients, if our hotel and staff are good, why should our customers leave us for a new hotel where nobody will know them?

How soon will the five star hotels be launched?

The Ministry of Commerce says not before 3 or 4 years. Today the two existing big hotels are hardly running at 60% occupancy. The small hotels put together are running at about 30% occupancy. If you bring on the market 150 rooms, which are from the Hôtel Des Diplomate and the Hotel Kiyovu, then we will drop occupancy. The Ministry of Tourism says that we have to get money out of the existing hotels before you bring new hotels on the market. So we have four years to build our clientele and make sure they will be interested in our services whatever comes on the market. 
The government has recognised the role that tourism can play in the development of the country. However, it is observed that foreigners are not well informed about the tourism potential of your country. As GM of Novotel, do you feel the government is following the right strategy and is investing enough in promoting and making the tourism industry more efficient?

Today there is a political decision to promote tourism. Before 1994, there was sustainable tourism; unfortunately today Kenya and Tanzania have developed their tourism industries. It is going to be difficult for Rwanda to approach the tourism industry because they don't have much more to offer except gorillas and the number of visitors to the gorillas is limited. If you bring more people and they can't go to see the gorillas, then they will be very frustrated. The government is putting all the professionalism of people to develop this industry. But it will take some time before tourism will present a real income to the country.

We were also hearing about regional cooperation. To what extent do you think Rwanda could benefit from cooperating with neighbouring countries like Kenya and Tanzania?

They could sell package tours through international tour operators. With maybe one week in Kenya at the seaside or one week in Zanzibar and a few days here, this is a possibility. Today, the biggest problem is communication because so far there are only 2 direct flights from Europe and regional airlines do not offer sufficient flights with the neighbourhoods countries
I think you that if you have to change a plane or to make one or two stops, it is not very good from the tourist's point of view.
However, Rwanda is targeting a different clientele than Kenya where mass tourism has been developed. Due to it size and potential, Rwanda is targeting upper market clients.

We know you have only been here for a short period of time, but have you been able to exchange your views on the tourism sector with the government and ORTPN?

From the very first days after my arrival, I was invited to participate at a seminar organized by ORTPN. And, since then, we have had at least one meeting every month. So there is a permanent exchange of view and experience.
I also suggested to ORTPN to develop a line of derivate products from the gorilla theme. Having spent over a year in northern Tanzania, I have seen what can be sold to the tourists and businessmen and here, with the mountains gorillas, there have a fantastic opportunity.So we will work together to create these products and promote them in our hotel.

According to you, what are the main setbacks or limits to the development of the tourism sector?

First, the number of tourism sites. There is Akagera that is a tenth of Serengeti and can be visited in one day, Nyungwe forest and the Volcano National Park. All these sites are orientated to wildlife. Then you have the Kivu region , Butare and some possibilities of visits of coffee and ta plantations. However, the second obstacle is the almost absence of good accommodation outside Kigali. This must be a priority for the development of tourism.
The last setback is the price of airline tickets : today you cannot fly to Kigali for less than 1,000 euros. The average price of a ticket ranges from 1,500 to 2,200 euros. It makes the stay expensive.

How long do you think it will take for Rwanda to re-boost the tourism industry?

To develop tourism, you have to count about 6months to one year from the time you think of getting the people or from the time you get the first tourist.
We are talking about a country whose history is not too easy to forget. The target that has been given is to present a proper tourism program at the World Tourism Market in November next year. So they have a year and a half to develop a product. I could say that by the middle of 2004, you can expect the first organised groups of tourists through the normal channels.

In order to achieve this target, investors first have to come. In which areas related to the tourism sector would you see the best investment opportunities?

Development of the hotel industry definitely because they are some nice opportunities. Today, when you leave Kigali in the morning, you have to come back at night unless you want to sleep in very basic lodges. I think it is profitable to build small hotels in the countryside for tourists and businessmen because you have a rather quick return on investment. Every businessman coming to Kigali is a potential tourist because it is much easier to sell trip to a businessman who comes here than to bring tourists from around the world. If you sell t-shirts, caps and stickers of the gorillas to the coming businessmen, they will get interested and try to find some time to visit the country.

New hotels will be created, but will there be enough supply of qualified staff?

Today any new hotel that would open would first take the staff from the existing hotels because there is no hotel school and people just receive very basic training. Even if they received proper training they would not get work, as there is enough staff in the existing hotels. But there is a project with the European Community to help the existing hotel schools. This project will start in September with the help of hotel industry experts coming to Kigali to train the teachers.

You worked for Novotel in Arusha and now you are working here in Rwanda, how would you compare those two experiences?

First of all the market is very different, the hotel I was working for in Arusha was a 60% businessman's hotel even though Arusha is a tourist hub. There is nothing to see in Arusha, so most of the tourists arrive at night and go to the park the next day so you hardly see them.
In addition, Arusha is not the capital, so you do not have government, NGOs and industries. Arusha exists today because of ICTR and the head office of the East African community is based there.
Here you have potential because Kigali is the capital and we are in the process of rebuilding the country and its image. We can expect dramatic increase of visitors in the coming months and years.
Finally, the mentally of people is much more business orientated here in Rwanda and it is definitively a very good asset to promote the country and give a positive image to future investors.

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