H.E, Paul Kagame
said last year that the people are Rwanda's only
source of wealth hence the need to invest in the
education system. Taking into consideration that
human resources have been greatly affected by
the war, do you also believe that the Rwandan
people are the main asset of your country today?
Yes, I do believe that the Rwandan people are
a major asset to their country. Rwanda at this
very moment does not have any significant natural
resources or even the natural resources available
cannot be exploited because no resources. Take
an example of the methane gas discovered in the
1930's up to now it still lies unexploited and
the are some other examples.
Therefore inadequate human resource base has contributed
to this and the education we are committed to,
is geared at solving such problems. When you look
at the education budget, 30% of the national budget
has been accorded to this sector. This clearly
indicates the president's will to uplift the education
standards in the country.
One of the key objectives of the vision 2020
is the reduction of poverty levels, which implies
first the implementation of a good education system.
The budget allocated to your ministry is one of
the largest. Which areas do you mainly allocate
this budget?
Before that, let me first give you a review of
the history of the Rwandan education system. After
the 1994 genocide, schools were destroyed, students
and teachers killed and there fore the biggest
challenge was to rebuild the education system.
When the primary schools opened in 1994, we had
941,012 pupils now we have 1,534,510. That means
on average 100,000 pupils per year.
In '95/'96, when the secondary schools started,
we had 50,000 students and now there are more
than 40,000 students, which is close to three
times. The National University of Butare opened
with 2,800 students. Today there are close to
157,210 students at the university and when other
public and private tertiary institutions are included,
the figure goes to 15,353. Therefore making education
accessible to all Rwandans was made a reality.
Before the war, there was ethnic discrimination
deep rooted in he education sector. But now for
students to qualify for secondary school education
or university, there are national exams to be
done. So, bringing equal access or equity to education
was one biggest achievement so far registered.
In the primary level we have a 74% native enrolment
though with major quality problems to address.
81% of the primary school teachers are qualified
and in secondary school 51,9% are qualified teachers.
In higher education 30% of the lecturers hold
a PHD. So you see that we have a crisis on the
quality of education but we are trying to improve
that. We have other good efforts showing many
programs with DFID and the African Development
Bank to support the primary level especially with
textbooks to improve the quality.
You recently created a teacher training institution.
Has it tried to answer some of these issues?
Yes, we have the Kigali Institute of education,
which offers pre-service and in-service. For the
in-service arrangement, there's a program to train
2500 teachers through distance learning. The African
Development Bank, USAID and the DFID, which gave
2 million pounds when we launched the programme
in January, support this programme. We have 10
centres through out the country and so we hope
to achieve 100% quality in the next few years.
We are training some of our own lecturers from
abroad UK, US, Canada, South Africa Belgium, India
and France. The government to show it's commitment
to quality education sent 400 students to India
to study science, management and IT; and Rwanda
is committed to meeting some of the International
targets like universal free primary for all. Now
you asked me about the budget allocations, and
I think this shows the key priority areas. But
primary requires more budget because of the big
numbers. I am committed to a more balanced sector
at the three levels of primary, secondary and
tertiary institutes.
Most of the families of the children going
to school have been victims of the war. Do you
have the tools to help them believe again in the
development of a democratic society?
We have a joint program with the commission of
National Unity and reconciliation of developing
a curriculum that seeks to answer the above. Now
for those children that cannot raise tuition fees,
there's a program known as FARGE that seeks to
address this issue. It carries 5% of the National
budget and does cater for mainly primary and secondary
school educate.
Therefore such a program is to show them that
we are with them and are trying to address all
issues that are affecting them. The human rights
commission has also played a supplementary role
in promoting Current Curriculum Civics Education.
What you are saying is that today your education
system can play a role in the process of national
reconciliation.
The fact that 1.57 million go to primary school
with 26,024 teachers emphasizing the current government
programmes is a basis for this. At secondary school
are boarding schools where students from different
regions attend. The university takes on people
from different ethnic background and different
regions and for that it is a strong tool to attaining
Reconciliation. I think education is the field
that can be credited for initiating Unity and
Reconciliation.
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is why I am committed to equity in education. Equity
means a student coming from one level to another
sits for exams, equity means that provinces have
even distribution. For example we have a programme
to construct 12 science schools of Excellency one
in each province and teacher-training colleges also
evenly distributed in these provinces. Our motive
is to create an even distribution of educational
facilities to all provinces, which is very important.
Another thing we are committed to in equity is gender.
In primary school we have achieved almost the same
number of boys and girls. In secondary school, the
situation is relative but the situation becomes
worse at the tertiary institutions. The science
discipline is still a big problem for the girls
but we are trying to bridge the gap.
Decentralisation is the order of the day in every
sector of the economy, including education. Can
you enlighten us on the way you intend to implement
the decentralisation of the education system?
All the management of the teachers is going to be
done at the provincial levels. The salaries have
been sent to these levels. A few weeks ago I signed
a memorandum with the mayor of Kigali in which some
educational tasks were decentralised to the City
council. Of course we still retained some powers
like the law governing the teachers. You cannot
just fire a teacher without the consent of the ministry.
The taxes collected by district and provincial officials
can be used to build schools with some supervision
from the ministry following MOE standards (Monitoring
Evaluation). We are decentralising our ICT programmes
to the local levels too. I recently attended a conference
organised by Microsoft where I met the executive
vice president. We signed an agreement called "expression
of interest." It is a detailed agreement called
on how to collaborate with our country in ICT. So
I believe that one way of achieving decentralising
is through ICT, which I am very much committed to.
Policy on ICT Rwanda has a five-year plan on ICT
called integrity Social Economic Development Policy
and Plan that is meant to be revolved every five
years till 2020. Here we are trying to promote ICT
at even primary and secondary. We have started a
human resource development project with the World
Bank. We have given already 12 secondary schools
a computer laboratory fully connected to the Internet.
Also through a world link project we will be having
40 schools with such facilities, which I believe,
is commendable for us. In the primary school we
have a project with world link, USAID and ourselves
to provide at least one computer in every primary
school. Microsoft gave 2200 license in software
and Rwandatel will give us Internet connections
for a year. Coca-Cola also intends to help us. So
this will be a basis for capacity building. Higher
education is ahead; we have distance training, and
web net design and many more programmes in ICT at
the higher institutions. Rwanda has applied to be
a founding member of the gateway foundation. A team
from World Bank will be here in June 2002 to discuss
about it and we hope we will be members.
In 1997, KIST was created by the ministry whose
ambition is to have it recognised as a regional
centre of excellence. 5 years after its creation,
do you still believe that KIST has the potential
to fulfil this ambition? If you look around, KIST
has created a culture and promoting ICT. KIST started
with Internet service, which is fairing on well.
KIST is showing leadership in developing ICT in
Rwanda and I strongly believe that they will succeed.
When I was in Abidjan, attending a conference of
the council of ministers of higher education and
research, several ministers who were there showed
interest in sending some of their students to KIST.
And, in fact, the next conference will be held here
next year in March. You have developed projects
related to provision of renewable energies through
the KIST and IRST.
To what extend do you consider those projects
important for the development of your country?
If you look at the trend now of electrification,
some province will get power in 10 years time. Solar
energy has been cited as the best alternative for
this. We visited a health centre in one of the distant
province, where they estimated that for them to
have electricity from Eectrogaz, it would take them
FRW 150 million. However it was estimated that the
cost of installing solar energy system would only
take FRW 5 million. So IRST is planning to have
this for schools and health centres where we think
electricity will take long to reach. The second
issue in terms of environment, human waste is transformed
into Biogas, which is used for cook as another source
of fuel. I am sure it is one major factor of preserving
the environment. So at IRST we are studying the
possibility of developing solar energy that is fully
cost effective. Last September you participated
in the general conference of UNESCO.
To what extent do you intend to develop your
co-operation with foreign organisations?
For a long time Rwanda has not strongly established
in these organisations. That's why we did lots of
lobbying to see that Prof. Lwakabamba of KIST is
elected to the board of UNESCO. It is very important
to be very visible in these organisations to receive
the assistance we need. We participate in all major
educational conferences to get acquainted with what
is happening. We need our voice to be heard in these
bodies and sell out our educational programmes well.
Dr. Murenzi, you were in Atlanta as a university
professor and now here as a minister of Education,
How do you compare these two experiences?
I can say that there's a bridge. The experience
in America taught me to be more efficient in the
way I approach problems and also communication.
I have an experience of more than 20 years in education
in several countries. So it this experience that
enables me to handle problems like the way am doing
it. I will be back to a classroom in June 2002 at
the National University where I will be teaching
a course in Mathematics. |